Libertarians are anarchists
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There is a reductio ad absurdum argument by the left, that Libertarians are all anarchists, or it would lead to anarchy.
~ Aristotle Sabouni
Created: 2022-07-05 |
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- There is a reductio ad absurdum argument by the left, that Libertarians are all anarchists, or it would lead to anarchy. This also devolves into idiotry about "who would build the roads, schools, police?"
- NOTE: We had roads, schools, police long before we had an IRS... and they were far more Libertarian than most Libertarians today would want -- so it's an argument that appeals to the ignorant or partisan, not the informed.
- We can debate how extreme a Libertarian is, and whether they are an anarchist in Libertarian clothing (and there are a handful out there). But saying Libertarians are anarchists is like calling all Democrats rapists, just because Bill Clinton was one.
- Libertarianism isn't anarchy, nor is it close to it. These fallacies are often used to try to shut down discussions. When you hear things like, “who’d build the roads”, “you’d rather we had robber barons”, and “what about the cops and firemen”, and other straw-men arguments like that, you know the other side has lost rational part of the argument, and are now using logical fallacies like straw-men attacks to distract from the point.
- First, there's no such thing as anarchy:
- Watch 4 year olds on a playground. Within a few minutes, they'll decide on a game or create one -- with the corresponding rules to do so.
- The same with couples negotiating how their relationship will work.
- If you have two or more humans that can communicate, they'll start making rules for resource and work division, and poof: you don't have anarchy.
- You keep taking Billy's lunch money, and he'll pay Bruno to pummel you and take it back.
- Rules and justice/fairness are human nature, and no one is advocating eliminating them — some are advocating picking them more prudently and wisely. Read Anarchy for more.
- Second, the U.S. was full on more Libertarian than most modern Libertarians would strive for, right up until about the 1890’s or 1930's -- and the U.S. had plenty of roads, schools, and social services before the 16th Amendment allowed there to be an income tax and IRS. We had parks, and fire departments, and police, even transcontinental railroads, bridges, and all those things that the clueless imagine evaporating tomorrow, if Libertarians got their way.
So the fiction that without the IRS or progressives we wouldn't have these things, is a delusion.
The fiction that Libertarians want to eliminate all these things, is also a fraud.
If anyone uses those arguments, you know mature discussion or basic understanding of others views exceeds their intellectual or emotional capacity.
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