Frequently asked (or misanswered) questions about Russiagate (Trump Russia Collusion).
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Russiagate/FAQ • [17 items]
Q: What is this Russia thing about?
A: It's not about Russia. It's that Hillary lost the election. Democrats had a sob-fit, the Clinton campaign had a documented plan to keep the administration and public off balance and #resist by any means possible. Clintons went with their favored tactic of smear campaign, and their allies and rubes went along with her treasonous plan to undermine the elected President.
A: It's not about Russia : The DNC hasn't cared about Russia since 1917. A: Hillary lost the election -- and the Clinton's did what they always did; and followed a documented plan to keep the administration and public off balance and #resist by any means possible, using their favored tactic of smear campaign (like they had done before with Obama and birtherism).
So we know that
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Q: Did Russia hack our election?
A: No. Russian might have interfered in our election... in retaliation for us interfering in theirs first but there's zero evidence they altered the outcome, or meddled with the tally in any way -- and that's what "hacking" means. To hack our election implies that Russia got into our voting machines, digitally manipulated our media, and effected the outcome.
A: No. Russian might have interfered in our election... in retaliation for us interfering in theirs first, but there's zero evidence they altered the outcome, or meddled with the tally in any way -- and that's what "hacking" means. To hack our election implies that Russia got into our voting machines, digitally manipulated our media, or swung the public (or delegates) voting through manipulation. Nobody has been able to show that Russia tampered with a voter machine, changed a vote, or made a vote illegally. There's not even any evidence that through various PR or hacking efforts, they were able to change a single voters mind, let alone an electoral vote (Trump won by 77 of those), and they certainly didn't to swing the election. We know the Chinese hacked the Election Commission in 2013 (amongst others) and are a bigger threat, and that Obama ignored both Russian and Chinese hacking attempts in general, for 8 years. But that isn't hacking our election. |
Q: Did Russia "influence" our elections?
A: There's no evidence that the Russians were successful at influencing anyone. We know from exit polls, that people who voted against Hillary, or for Trump, didn’t have the leaks as any of primary motive: they had decided long before, and over other issues.
Russians have tried to "influence" our elections for 70 years, often at the request of Democrats. Russians have always supported opposition groups from the Vietnam War, to Martin Luther King, to environmentalist movements like anti-Fracking, anti-Dakota Pipeline, or anti-humanity (the Sierra Club). All during the Obama administration and up to early 2016 (before the primary), they did some insignificant ad buys/trolling (a few thousand posts among billions, and $5K of $20B), there's a probability that they "hacked" a Hillary operatives email, and a lesser possibility that they were behind leaking those truths to Wikileaks. But that means the Russians did what the media should have done (called investigative journalism), and investigated and released evidence that the media, DNC, and Hillary campaign had conspired to sabotage Bernie Sanders, and corrupt/rig the election. Instead the media was behind collaborating to get Hillary elected. If the media had done their job, the Russians would have had no impact. If Russians had an impact, it proves the media wasn't doing their job in informing us. When the leaks came to light, the Media/Democrats first lied about it (and implied that these emails were faked), then changed the subject to "Russian Hacks" or "Trump colluded with Russia". |
Q: Why did Russia interfere?
A: All countries try to influence (interfere) in other countries elections. We interfered first. There is no room for the moral high ground or outrage. This is nothing new, nor was there evidence that they were extraordinary in means or success. Allies and enemies alike, spy, hack, and even try to influence elections.
America interfered with 81 countries election in the last few decades, and Obama administration interfered with elections in Russia, Ukraine, Israel (Netanyahu), the U.K. (Brexit), and Germany (remember hacking Merkel's phone)? Russia was just doing back to us, what we'd done to them first. And any agency that omits that isn't trying to inform their base. That isn't whataboutism, that is about 70 years of historical precedent.>
So while more has been leaked to the public -- everything known has been known since mid-2106. Before the election, Obama said Trump should stop his whining and there was nothing to see here. This only became an issue after the election, because it was politically advantageous for the Democrats to make a scene. If Hillary had won, is there anyone who believes Obama would have had this tantrum or the Democrats would be calling for investigations? If you believe that, then you're a rube. Democrats would love Trump to start a conflict or worsen relations with the world's biggest Nuclear power, just to gain votes - but the DNC's interests are not America's interests. So knowing all that, what should we do? We already slapped sanctions, Obama threw out 30 Russian diplomats (only after Obama was a lame-duck, and in order to try to sabotage relations for the next administration). Trump responded harsher to Russia than Obama has. Now we improve or infosec (information security) and move on or we escalate towards war. Pick one. We should certainly slap Russia if we find them doing something new. But tantrums over things 2 years old, where the worst they did is tell the truth about Democrats, is just stupid. |
Q: What should we do about the Russian interference?
A: Remember, the evidence that Russian's "hacked" Podesta's email and the DNC is pretty strong. The evidence that they were the source behind Wikileaks is much weaker. But why after sitting on this info for 9 months (or 8 years) should we do anything right as Obama exits? This is a problem for the incoming administration, not the lame duck.
The Obama administration and government hasn’t bothered to define what an "official cyber attack" even is (let alone whether this actually qualifies), but they were sure the Russians had done it. And thus we could commit acts of pre-war like throwing out diplomats, and the media wasn't calling him on it?
Here's a few hacks and events that got no response from Obama:
After 8 years of doing nothing about serious hacks or real threats to national security (by Chinese, Russians, North Korean and Iranians -- in order of frequency and importance), suddenly Obama does his most aggressive foreign policy move (throwing out 30 Russian diplomats), just weeks before he left office, because of the possibility that they might have hacked the DNC and leaked the truth to the public. None of those others were worthy of official response from the Obama administration. But scant evidence that the Russians may have helped get the truth out about criminal and immoral acts done by the Hillary campaign: and that put the Obama admin on a war footing. If that doesn't sound suspicious or political to you, then you may be a Democrat. |
Q: What about the Podesta email hacks?
A: Despite CNN and other FakeNews sites repeating that the Russian hacked the election, that they collaborated with Trump, that they manipulated the election, they've yet to show any evidence. Besides this not making sense, there's more evidence against this than for it.
The Russian hacker thing seems to be a great system for separating the rational and skeptical, from the rest. Despite CNN and other FakeNews sites repeating that the Russian hacked the election, that they collaborated with Trump, that they manipulated the election, they've yet to show any evidence. Besides this not making sense, there's more evidence against this than for it. The Dems just created this narrative as an excuse to distract away from their actions in rigging the primary, and fumbling the election. Maybe the Russians were behind Podesta's email hacks, if you trust the politicized intelligence departments, but that's something that deserves a grain of salt -- and there's no evidence it changed any votes, let alone the outcome -- so it's a nothing-burger. |
Q: What about Russian trolls, and Social Media?
A: There's nothing there. While FakeNews (CNN, etc) will sensationalize this to no end, there's no there, there. There was no huge spend, there was no change in votes, there was no Russian troll army. There was a few hundred thousand in ads, in a election that spent many billions on ads. If they were that persuasive with that much less effort/money, they deserve it.
Here's the basics:
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Q: Is Collusion a crime?
A: No. And even if they did, Donald Trump colluded, that's still not illegal. It might be an unsavory/unethical dirty-trick (like Hillary paying for the fake dossier, leaking it to the Press, and the FBI/Obama administration using it to spy on the Trump campaign), but that's not criminal, and thus is not supposed to be impeachable. Thus impeachment is a scam.
Remember the basics:
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Q: Did the Russians want Donald Trump to win?
A: there's no evidence of that. - no one (least of all "intelligence sources") ever provided a good motive for why Russia would want Trump over Hillary. Hillary had a history of being more bribable and blackmail-able, so if they wanted a puppet or someone they could compromise, they had their Manchurian candidate in her.
Basics:
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Q: Did Trump or his campaign collude with Russia?
Despite 4 investigations, and multiple Democrats claiming things like Collusion/Obstruction, we have no good evidence that anyone can point to. There's virtually no evidence of Russian collusion, and never has been. At least for Trump. The Hillary Campaign, FBI, and DNC? Oh, they colluded. But the left and their media doesn't care about that.
Nope:
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Q: Did Hillary, the DNC, or Obama collude with Russia
Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy (twice), Bill Clinton, all asked for Russian collusion and interference in our elections. Barack Obama, in an infamous hot-mic incident, was colluding with the Russians. Hillary campaign paid the Russians for a fake Steele "Pee-Pee" dossier. So there was Russian collusion... by Democrats.
The Democrats have repeatedly colluded with other countries to try to influence/subvert our elections.
That dossier gave the Obama administration and their cronies in the FBI an excuse to get illegal FISA wiretaps on Trump's guy (Carter Page), by perjuring themselves to a Judge -- and that allowed them to listen in on Trump's campaign, then illegally unmask and leak that, all to undermine the elected President! Which helps who? The Russians, since undermining confidence in the election was what the Russians were trying to do all along. Oh, and the DNC, FBI and the media got caught colluding to fix the election and get Hillary in the Whitehouse (and undermine our Bernie Sanders and our Democracy), as proven by the Wikileaks documents and later confessions. That's not even touching the "reset button" fiasco, or giving away our Uranium for payoffs in speaking fees. But nothing at all to show Trump Campaign was doing any election-rigging collusion with the Russians. And again, if "Collusion" was a crime (and not "Foreign Policy"), all of them would have been imprisoned. Read: DNC-Russian_Collusion for all the juicy details. |
Q: What did IG DOJ FBI Report show
The 2016 IG/DOJ report has many startling revelations about rampant partisan bias, lawbreaking (criminality) around Trump/Russiagate fraud. This wasn't just Comey, but 5 others, including Obama criminally lying about events.
So the IG Report showed that:
Read: FBI/IG DOJ FBI Report for all the juicy details. |
Q: Is Trump compromised by Russians?
A: Only the irrational can believe that. Despite almost 2 years of investigating, there's no evidence of Trump's direct contact with the Russians. We have hard evidence of both Obama and Hillary having direct contact with the Russians (and getting payoffs). And Trump is far harsher on Russia (as proven by his term) than Hillary/Obama ever was.
A: Only the irrational/misinformed can believe that.
Think about how stupid the "Trump=Russian Puppet" argument is, Russians wanted Trump to win, so:
It's dumb to think that the Russians wanted Trump to win, but even Alex Jones isn't bat shit crazy enough to float the regular CNN/MSNBC conspiracies that Russians are controlling Trump, and he's giving them what he wants. |
Q: Shouldn't we trust the Intelligence Agencies?
NO! Being rationally skeptical is called critical thinking. So as Reagan said, "trust but verify". If the evidence supports the case, and they're being open? Sure. If they're not being open, and the story doesn't add up, then "of course not". The CIA's (and FBI's) job is to often to lie. You don't think they'll lie to you for an agenda?
NO! Being rationally skeptical is called critical thinking. So as Reagan said, "trust but verify". If the evidence supports the case, and they're being open? Sure. If they're not being open, and the story doesn't add up, then "of course not". The FBI is normally about telling the truth, but the CIA's job is to lie. And both the top of the FBI and CIA, in this case, have been caught lying, politicking (against this administration), the top leadership has been fired and are being investigated. Thus the media and democrats that have been telling us since Vietnam to never trust the CIA, are suddenly saying we should trust unnamed agency sources without evidence (and without question)? That doesn't sound political to you?
These are the folks that:
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Q: Was Trump wiretapped?
Yes. The three things (Russia, Trump and Wiretapping) are intricately tied together, in ways that reflect poorly on the mainstream media, and those who believe that media. NYT/CNN/WaPo called Trump a fool for thinking he was wiretapped. 6 months or a year later, they all admit that he was wiretapped, but with a bunch of wiggle words and excuses.
The three things (Russia, Trump and Wiretapping) are intricately tied together, in ways that reflect poorly on the mainstream media, and those who believe that media. Remember this sequence:
We know that:
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Q: What about Helsinki?
A: This proves media bias, more than Trump bias. Look, every President meets with the Russia. Virtually all Politicians say nice things about powerful leaders, and try to butter them up, and get some things from them, so they can play great statesman. But when Trump does less than Hillary, Obama, Bill Clinton, they scream.
A: This proves media bias, more than Trump bias.
Look, every President meets with the Russia. Virtually all Politicians say nice things about powerful leaders, and try to butter them up, and get some things from them, so they can play great statesman. Trump is no different than all of his predecessors in this regard, if anything, he sucked up LESS. Part of it is truth, part of it is that in order to persuade the other side, they have to make them feel at ease. Remember basic history:
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Q: Who was the leadership during the Russiagate stuff?
A: The Obama administration.
A: The Obama administration.
And these guys and the media blame Trump. FakeNews organizations like CNN love to put Clapper, Brennan, Comey on their talk shows, and never offer the context of them getting caught lying or mention the timing, or how they came to power (and thus who are most likely loyal to). Which is called a lie of omission -- the context of these men and their agenda is key to understanding why they're making the claims they are. |
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- ↑ Russians only dream of the influence that the FBI/DNC had: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/randy-hall/2018/06/15/mark-levin-fbi-interference-worse-russians-could-have-dreamed
- ↑ Russians only dream of the influence that the FBI/DNC had: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/randy-hall/2018/06/15/mark-levin-fbi-interference-worse-russians-could-have-dreamed
- ↑ FBI and CIA disagree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-and-cia-give-differing-accounts-to-lawmakers-on-russias-motives-in-2016-hacks/2016/12/10/c6dfadfa-bef0-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.574bc11fa095&wpisrc=nl_rainbow-fbia&wpmm=1
- ↑ FBI and CIA disagree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-and-cia-give-differing-accounts-to-lawmakers-on-russias-motives-in-2016-hacks/2016/12/10/c6dfadfa-bef0-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.574bc11fa095&wpisrc=nl_rainbow-fbia&wpmm=1