Crime-Murder

There's a misperception that Canada has lower murder because they have gun control. The data disagrees. Canada was passing gun control in the 50s, 60s and 70s, and their gun murders continued to climb. Then in the 80s, 90s and 2000's they dropped (never to pre-gun control levels) -- and they only dropped at about the same rate that the U.S. did... during the same time the U.S. was repealing gun control laws (including assault weapon bans). If you can have the same result without taking away liberty, I'd opt for that. ℹ️ Info           ~ Aristotle Sabouni

Murders versus Gun Control

Here’s a simple plot of the murder rates over time in Canada.

What you see is:

• That despite enacting gun control and registries in the 1950, 60’s and 70’s, gun murders continued to increase
• In the 80’s and 90’s they came down a bit (but never to pre-Gun Control levels)
  • NOTE: Canadian murder rates only came down by about the same percentage that the U.S. did, during the same time, despite opposite policies, as the next image shows.

So regardless of whether Canada has fewer murders than the US for cultural reasons, we know that gun control didn’t help Canada’s gun murder rate (let alone the broader murder rate).

U.S. versus Canada

We can go further and compare the U.S. to Canada’s murder rates over the same time, and despite dramatically different gun control legislation, Canada’s murder rates seemed to loosely follow the U.S.

Remember, Canada was enacting more gun restrictions in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and the U.S. was liberalizing them (allowing conceal and carry, reversing assault weapons bans, passing constitutional carry, all while gun ownership was skyrocketing). If gun control helped, explain the incongruity

Thus we know that Canada’s gun control didn’t help Canada outperform the U.S., despite taking away people’s liberty. If you will get the same result crushing freedom, or tolerating more of it, tolerating more of it (the American Way) is the better choice.

Instead of us trying to be more like them, they should be trying to be more like us.

🗒️ Note:

There's no attempted flimflam here. The U.S. has a higher murder rate, even adjusted for demographics. I just scaled and overlayed the murder rates so you could see the trends are the same. If this technique is invalid, then every Climate to CO2 chart (or normalizing between any to data sets) is invalid too, as they use the same technique. Some used to infer that Canada has a lower murder rate because it's colder, and thus when everyone's huddled up, it's harder to commit murder. But this doesn't track over other countries, or even based on temperature in the same country. What does have a stronger correlation is murder-to-immigration rates. The more mixing, the more competition, tribalisms, and friction you get.

Confiscation

🗒️ Note:
9 of the 22 victims died in fires the man had set, while the rest were shot... I hear next that they're going to limit matches, lighters, and rubbing sticks together will be tightly controlled.

In 2020, after a mass shooting, and based on no science (stated evidence that this will help, and a lot of evidence to the contrary), Canada has decided to ignore the #1 guns used in mass shootings (pistols) and ban rifles with cosmetic features that scare the ignorant misnamed "assault" weapons. But of course their police and military can still have them to use on civilians.

There is no actual qualification for "assault" weapon, or military style weapon -- traditionally that means lighter black plastic instead of wood, and smaller/weaker rounds. They'll define that later.

The excuse for this was the Novia Scotia shooting, where an unlicensed shooter had bought illegal weapons, so both the weapon and the shooter was already banned from buying, owning or using the weapons in question -- and thus the failure was in the State not having put the person away already, not in the tool they used. Since the solution doesn't address teh problem, this power grab does nothing to help with actual mass shootings, it's strictly retaliatory against legal guns and owners that had nothing to do with. Canadians Liberty must be punished for the failure of the government to protect its citizens.

This wasn't done through the legal process, but circumvented it via an "Order" from the executive branch. E.g. this law is nothing but an announcement that they are going to violate civil rights, because Canada doesn't recognize property rights or the right of defense as a civil right.

Oh, and in case you weren't paying attention, Canada already had American Gun Controllers wet dreams of every gun restriction known to man (except a full ban), and that didn't prevent a madman from shooting peopel with a gun. Thus any American gun controller that says, "this one more gun control restriction" will fix everything, is proven wrong by this and 100 other examples, where gun control doesn't work.

The outcome? They got high non-compliance, thus they turned legal gun owners into criminals and created a black market -- making it harder for them to control guns, not easier.

Conclusion

Facts:

• Canada has always had a lower murder rate than the U.S.
• Canada also has had less immigration, diversity, and most murders are by minorities
• Gun control has not seemed to help the murder rates in Canada
• Gun control in Canada underperformed compared to the increasing gun ownership in the U.S. over the same time
• Their gun seizures got low compliance, and that increased the number of illegal weapons.

So if you have a choice of taking people’s liberties, or giving them more of them, with no difference in homicide rates, then you have no excuse to take away people’s liberties -- unless that's what you wanted all along (tyranny). Given the choice of forcing law abiding citizens will become victims in their own homes and businesses, or knowing that you can let them choose to defend themselves (without any impacts to homicide rates), I’d opt for letting them choose. Canada prefers their citizens becoming victims.

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👁️ See also

• Canada/Crime-Murder - There's a misperception that Canada has lower murder because they have gun control. The data disagrees.
• United Kingdom/Crime-Murder - There’s this common meme that the U.S. is so much worse than the U.K. in murders or crime, so I wanted to collect a lot of facts in one place.
  
• United States of America/Crime-Murder - Compare the U.S. to the world in Crime/Murder rates, and the data won't show you what the left will tell you.
• Australia/Crime-Murder - A popular fraud is that since Oz (Australia) did Gun confiscation, things got much better. The facts disagree.

🔗 More

Guns Guns are a tool. Gun prohibition is like the prohibition on drugs, alcohol or crime.

Canada Canada is the polite little Socialist parasite above America, globally irrelevant if not for the U.S. market.

Comparisons Trying to compare across countries is difficult. Here's some efforts to clean up the mess.

🔗 Links

• https://mises.ca/posts/articles/gun-control-does-not-mean-murder-control/
• http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/121204/longdesc-cg121204a001-eng.htm
• http://web.archive.org/web/20150915003634/http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/publ_pdfs/Firearm_Control_in_Canada_1867-1945.pdf

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