Canadian Healthcare
Canada healthcare is single payer: long waits, rising costs, dropping quality, and the rich flee to the U.S. for anything important.
~ Aristotle Sabouni
Created: 2022-02-17 |
Facts[edit | edit source]
- Canadian healthcare is mediocre if you're in a major city (good political access) and you have something minor that can wait it's turn. Something serious, odd, or you're in a less politically influential area? You can flee to U.S. or suffer/die in line.
- For "Free" healthcare, the average Canadian family spends $7,000/person covered.
- 3% of all Canadians are in healthcare line at any given time. Delayed/rationed healthcare is denied healhcare: it turns minor maladies into irreversible disabilities or causes early death. However, since they don't have a political cost, are rarely reported, those deaths/suffering literally don't count.
- If you need to see a specialist, they waited an AVERAGE of 21.2 weeks to receive treatment AFTER waiting to be referred by their general practitioner. Complex medical issues have an AVERAGE wait for 33 weeks, orthopedic surgery is 41 weeks (outliers are much longer). One Ontario patient had to wait 4 1/2 years to see a neurologist, then wait for diagnostic test (11 weeks for an MRI that is same-day in U.S.) You often lie in line, or die of a malady that could have been treated if caught earlier.
- Look to COVID. Canada has about 1/10th the ventilators/capita as the U.S. If the pandemic had gone as fast/bad as the doomsayers predicted, many more Canadians would have died to their healthcare than the U.S. It took Canada longer to get vaccines rolled out than the U.S. And the only reason they got them that fast, was because many could either use American developed vaccines and/or drive the ≈100 miles to the U.S. to get vaccinated. [1]
Canadian COVID[edit | edit source]
If Socialized Medicine is so great, how did Canada handle COVID? Answer: Not very well.
They way underperformed America in early vaccinations. They caught up later, after they were ordered to follow and the strains were getting milder (meaning vaccines weren't as needed). But that's not the point. The point is when we thought vaccines would help and COVID was more deadly, how did they respond?
Truth or Progressivism?[edit | edit source]
I don't mind an honest debate if whether putting everyone into a rationing system where the politically connected get preferential treatment, or our system where the richer do is better. There are good arguments to be made either way.
Like:
- Their system does have some benefits, especially in the short term and for minor maladies -- and the cost of under-capacity and longer term decay of the system, and so on.
- We can talk about where the balances are in a hybrid system -- like if you can't pay for the full private system, could there be a hybrid fallback and so on.
I'm not a purist, I'm a realist.
But you can't have any of these discussions with uninformed or polemic individuals that deny there's any costs/consequences of politician/bureaucrat run healthcare (which is what Single-payer systems like Canada are).
If they can't admit the flaws like the ones I mentioned above, then they're not yet up for having an adult discussion, and should be mocked out of any serious debate on policy. (See most of the far left).
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🔗 Links
- http://www.aei.org/publication/whod-a-thunk-it-socialized-medicine-is-free-but-leads-to-really-really-long-wait-times/
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2018/01/08/democrats-idolize-canadas-health-system-as-it-recovers-from-worst-year-ever/
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